South Florida Sun-Sentinel:
“Florida health officials are drawing up guidelines that recommend barring patients with incurable cancer, end-stage multiple sclerosis and other conditions from being admitted to hospitals if the state is overwhelmed by flu cases.”
So it sure sounds to me like the Florida death panel has got a little rationing going on here! They’ve already started it before Obamacare has been passed!
“The plan, which would guide Florida hospitals on how to ration scarce medical care during a severe flu outbreak, also calls for doctors to remove patients with poor prognoses from ventilators to treat those who have better chances of surviving. That decision would be made by the hospital.”
And they want to sit there and tell us that there’s no such thing in the House bill or any of the Senate bills? Well, it’s there, but it doesn’t matter. It’s already starting in Florida.
And they’re ginning up this swine flu scare. I don’t know about you, I don’t watch the local news anymore, but I hear that every night on the local news from town to town in this country, you can bank on the first five or ten minutes of the latest swine flu panic story. They’re ginning people up about this, it’s going to be really bad and people are going to die, oh, it’s horrible, it’s horrible.
To repeat for those liberals that may have skipped over this…
“The plan, which would guide Florida hospitals on how to ration scarce medical care during a severe flu outbreak, also calls for doctors to remove patients with poor prognoses from ventilators to treat those who have better chances of surviving. That decision would be made by the hospital.”
Does anybody want to dispute here that whatever you call it, there are death panels headed our way?
are you really this dumb or are you just trying to score points?
Planning for a natural disaster involves trade-offs. Unless of course you WANT the government to to invest in WAY MORE equipment than any hospital will need in the course of its daily business. And you are some kind of “conservative”? Yikes.
jytdog,
Thank you for your contribution.
No, I am not dumb and I don’t need to score points with anyone.
Back on August 15th at a town hall on health care, Grand Junction, Colorado, President Obama said, “No one in America should go broke because they get sick.” Well, let me ask, would the president agree with this: “No one should die from rationed medical care because America is broke.” And that’s the greater consequence that we face. No one should die from rationed medical care because America is broke. Would you borrow money from somebody who’s bankrupt? That’s what we face with President Obama and his agenda.
A few short questions you might ponder…
Do you feel comfortable turning over your medical care to a government that …
Tried to run the ‘cash for clunkers program’? -bankrupt in a week
Runs Social Security and Medicare? -unfunded liability of the two programs is now about $84 trillion
Runs Public Housing, Public Schools, Amnesty, Hurricane Katrina…
I could go on but I find it a bit ridiculous to believe that Government can do anything better or at a lower cost than the Private Sector.
History shows us all we need to know about government efficiency.
I do not want to risk my medical freedom, 1/6 the American Economy or American Capitalism, which has made this the most prosperous country on the planet, on Obama Care which will destroy all the above.
If you would like to debate this further, I invite your input.
Regards,
Phantom Lady
All the stuff you wrote is interesting but off the point of your original post and my response to it. Risk management is a huge, undiscussed issue here. Again, hospitals could prepare for common events, somewhat common events, rare events, very events… should they buy boatloads of vaccine that they might never use “just in case” — it is a serious and very very hard question. And you mention Katrina. Very similar issue there with regard to prevention. If we spent unlimited funds we could ensure that New Orleans would never, ever, EVER be flooded. But we don’t have unlimited funds and so you have to decide how bad a storm you will prepare for — how high to build the walls. Civil engineers deal with this stuff every day and the US Population just has no stomach for it, no head for it either.
To address your response, however.
1) healthcare is already rationed in america. if you don’t have a job that provides insurance and don’t have enough money to buy insurance, you don’t get healthcare and if something bad happens you die. This happens every day. What about that?
You want to privatize police? Fire departments? Providing water and sewage removal? Reagan started this discourse that “government doesn’t work” and it is so terribly corrosive. Government is you and me and the people we elect, not some rippled greedy monster. To the extent that government acts in bad ways it is because the American people are too lazy to obtain real news and be vigilant –“the price of liberty is vigilance.” The priviate sector is no more virtuous than the government, nor necessarily more efficient. Private sector companies that survive on government contracts tend to be more corrupt and inefficient than companies that sell into the private sector – look at the defense industry for pete’s sake!
sorry for the long delay in responding, i forgot about your blog! I will check back this week and see what you have to say